cholo
11:14 Thu Jan 29
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Yeh, the problem with "hearing talk" is, sometimes it turns out to be true, sometimes it turns out to be false, "hearing talk" isn't very reliable unless it's backed up with something more substantial.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
11:03 Thu Jan 29
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Conspiracy Ron reckons he's heard stuff.
That's the kind of hard evidence I like to see in cases of serious crime.
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Ronald_antly
9:50 Thu Jan 29
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Let's just say that, for some years now, I've been hearing talk of very dark goings on with regard to child abuse by the high and mighty.
Orphanages (or whatever they're called these days) were like a buffet for these people.
Nothing that I can prove, other than it isn't simply one man's word.
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cholo
8:02 Thu Jan 29
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Ronald
I'm open to that suggestion, enlighten me please?
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Ronald_antly
8:00 Thu Jan 29
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It is more than one man's word.
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cholo
7:59 Thu Jan 29
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*isn't it true
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cholo
7:58 Thu Jan 29
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Of course a healthy scepticism of establishment integrity is necessary at all times, however isn't true we still only have one man's word for all this? Have any other victims come forward apart from "Nick", after all hundreds did so after the Savile story broke? They can't all have been thrown from Edward Heath's yacht.
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Hermit Road
7:37 Thu Jan 29
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I'll vote. If I didn't, then I'd effectively be voting lib/lab/con, so I'll have a stab at changing it.
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Coffee
7:27 Thu Jan 29
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Takashi Miike 7:21 Thu Jan 29
Not as a metaphor. Unless the laws of physics have changed.
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Coffee
7:22 Thu Jan 29
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Monk
Hmm.
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Takashi Miike
7:21 Thu Jan 29
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i wouldn't class the political elite as 'the cream', 'the dregs' would be more suitable
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Monk~koknee
6:04 Thu Jan 29
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Coffee
Well I don't see that the Soviet Union or Vietnam were ever really experiments in social justice aside from initial pretensions. They are not, however, what the modern day UK should be compared against. Unfortunately, and to its detriment, it remains a country that like to thinks it is still living in a colonial past and fighting the Hun. At the root of that is an elite formed by birthright and not achievement or ability.
In my opinion of course.
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mentor
5:49 Thu Jan 29
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100 days to another election and no one worth voting for
Do you not have a political view, Alf? Thats very strange.
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Coffee
5:46 Thu Jan 29
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Monk~koknee 4:42 Thu Jan 29
"a class ridden society with privilege for the few"
That may be true, but hierarchy is a strong characteristic of human society. It happens inevitably, just as cream accumulates at the top of milk. Political experiments in social justice - see, for instance the Soviet Union and Vietnam - have also turned out highly stratified societies, succeeding only in reinforcing domination of the proletariat by the elite. I recommend you Sir Thomas More.
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Joke Whole
5:30 Thu Jan 29
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The simplest answer is a "None of the above" option on ballot papers, to allow voters to send the one message the political class never want to hear.
They obviously couldn't really care less how the people vote - or even if they do - just so long as the "right sort" of politician gets/keeps his snout in the trough.
It'll be dismissed as "too late" to add to this years ballot papers, and next time there'll be another "reasonable" excuse, but we all know, and the politicians know more than most, that it would be turkeys voting for Christmas if it did happen.
But it's probably the one change that is most likely to get the electorate off their collective fat arse and into the booths - and all politicians want that, don't they?
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Monk~koknee
4:42 Thu Jan 29
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Agree Sir Alf. Britain is still a class ridden society with privilege for the few and yet so many accept this as a good thing because it is tradition.
How anyone can be absolutely sure there is no evidence when the files are locked away or worse deliberately destroyed is amazing.
Suspicions are of a cover up at the very top of government - the one of the day and each one since. Closing ranks and protecting their own.
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Hoss
1:42 Thu Jan 29
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Talking of wrong'uns
http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/jan/17/stephen-fry-elliott-spencer-marries-twitter
Surely that's not right...
I know 57 to 27 ain't the end of the world but he looks like a teenager..... a young teenager
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stoneman
1:21 Thu Jan 29
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Russell Brand is a cock.
The fact he supports West Ham prevents me from calling him a total cunt.
He stopped being funny about 10 years ago.
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Crassus
1:00 Thu Jan 29
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Surf
Good points well made but, and there would always be one, the no smoke without fire is not always wrong mate and this particular smoke has been rather vigorous, for donkeys and from significant office albeit none attributable.
I do suspect that things will ultimately out.
When they do of course it will have fuck all to do with individual politics. As a matter of personal experience I have direct experience of Saville's predation and only yesterday wished I could have been in court to refute the Glitter backstage wig claim.
We shall see
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:49 Thu Jan 29
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Crassus 12:43 Thu Jan 29
My problem is not about politics. If I were being political partisan I would have just pointed everyone in the direction of Labour25.com
My problem with this one is that, unlike Savile, there is not a shred of evidence except the word of a Labour activist who waited 20 years to make an accusation of rape. the police decided there wasn't even a good reason to interview Brittan. Goaded by Watson, she made the same accusation 30 years later - in veiw of the Savile scandal, this time the police interviewed Brittan and released him without charge and with no suggestion that he would be.
It's not the same thing at all. The whole story relies on the same 'Oh, everybody knows about it' burden of proof that saw McAlpine hounded for 20 years. Or have we all conveniently forgotten about him already?
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Mr Polite
12:47 Thu Jan 29
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Ooh you witch
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